Men's Memes: Feminists don't give you the full truth on porn

Tuesday, January 30, 2007

Feminists don't give you the full truth on porn

Some feminists are pro-porn, some are violently anti-porn. About the only thing that tells you is that feminism is incoherent and basically stands for nothing except a woman's right to do whatever she wants and to condemn or praise things randomly and expecting the taxpayer to ask "how high?" whenever she shouts "Jump!"

The thing that annoys me with the anti-porn fembots is the way that they use such violent and hateful language to attack men who look at porn images of women, yet they stay silent on the subject of photos of men and teenage boys in gay porn, or on the subject of femdom porn.

I wanted to find some way to get an over-view measurement of what is popular in the world of online porn. I found a site called 'Clips4Sale', which claims to be "The number one downloadable clip site on the net", featuring over 100,000 downloadable clips. This is where the real consumption of porn is going on these days, not some little seedy shop selling DVDs, which made such a soft-target for the harassment feminists in my previous post. Looking through the site there are a bewildering array of different genres and fetishes. Including some as strange as just videos of women's feet on car pedals. Not even naked feet, feet with shoes on.

If we take Clips4Sale's claim of popularity to be true, then it gives a very interesting picture of what genres of porn are most popular online. They maintain a list of their 50 top stores - and it seems that by this they mean their most popular stores. Around 40 of these top 50 are some variation of female domination, including sites where the man is being hurt, worshipping the woman's feet, being tied up and controlled by a woman (sometimes with the guy being naked while the woman is clothed), naked men having their genetalia kicked or trampled, and so on.

Only 1 of these sites featured the domination running in the other way. It was a site featuring women tied up by men. And was actually pretty tame.

If this site is any measure of porn popularity online then around 80% of the video porn consumed online is some form of femdom or features the man in the weaker position sexually, either being forced to worship the woman or being sexually degraded/humiliated.

Isn't this radically different from the picture that feminists paint of porn?

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Turn of the tide: feminists begin to regret

Cosmopolitan (The women's magazine that urges women to use men for sex) Editor Lorraine Candy has a change of mind and now urges women not to have "Soul-less sex":

"We didn't feel ashamed about one-night stands...this, we thought, is what feminism is about."

70s feminist Fay Weldon now says:

"It is the fault of me and my like, who... got it wrong.

So were we wrong, we feminists, setting women free? The results have been devastating – greater than we ever imagined.

We steamed ahead, changing the world with too little caution, and I hope the future will forgive us.

The pendulum has swung too far over. But it may yet swing back again. Societies, thank God, tend to be self-righting."

"Once a man could look forward to starting a family and the dignity that came from being the provider. Forget it. At best as a man you're decorative, look after the kids and earn a bit sometimes; at worst you're a write-off. Women are elbowing the men out. The boys get anxious, the girls swagger. The male suicide rate goes up, female down. Twenty-eight per cent of us now live in single person households - a lonely and unnatural state - and most of the 28 per cent consist of young men. It is strange that it is left to a woman to suggest, in the normal nurturing way, that men start some kind of movement to promote their gender's status and self-esteem - call it masculinism, brotherism, machoism, what you want - and some mark of the success of the feminist movement, that it needs to be done."

60's feminist Doris Lessing now says:

"It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did."

An excerpt from an interview with Joan Rivers:

"She's not with the feminists when it comes to matters of the heart. For her, they're to blame for the current parlous state of our relationships, as depicted in these television Shows (Such as Sex in the city) and films. "I saw this coming. You cannot be equal to a man, you cannot make a man feel 'I don't need you' or 'I'll take my sex when I want it'. All these shows are so sad."

Camille Paglia :

"Women have been discouraged from genres such as sculpture that require studio training or expensive materials.

But in philosophy, mathematics, and poetry, the only materials are pen and paper.

Male conspiracy cannot explain ALL female failures.

I am convinced that, even without restrictions, there still would have been no female Pascal, Milton, or Kant.

. . . Even now, with all vocations open, I marvel at the rarity of the woman driven by artistic or intellectual obsession, that self-mutilating derangement of social relationship which, in its alternate forms of crime and ideation, is the disgrace and glory of the human species."